Well, thanks a lot guys. I have not loaded the producrts yet for one main reason... My machine got burnt, blasted, usless. So I'm waiting till I get the bucks for a new one. However, I use my time on rentals to find out what will I'll be able to do once I can load thos two softwares. Mi intentions are: give life to the characters I design in my mind for role playing games (table top games that is, not computer games) no commercial ends to it. Just the fun of it. I want to create vampires, werewolves, wraiths, and a large lists of etceteras, and I was thinking that if there is already a start model I could use, that would save me a lot of time and head ackes cause I'm a terrible artist. XD Once again thanks a lot for your time and answers they've been pretty helpful.