OOOOH OK! I'm slow, I get it now ;) Funny I should overlook that one, I use it on mike and on the rare occasion on Vicky. you got me. I was thinking muscles. I think I got that stuck in my head cuz Vicky dosn't do muscles well, you need Steph for that. No . .. really. . . . I am smarter than I look? (not that that is saying much) tony