Smart-assed??? I hope I didn't offend. I know about Gimbel lock and what it does, but not what causes it. And I don't know how to get around it. It was just a comment. Not being condescending to say the least. I DO hate Gimbel lock - it happens to me on a regular basis. :o( If I was really being smart-assed, you would no doubt be certain that's my intention. And I don't do that. Laurie