I pre-ordered p5 and received it several weeks later (via the UK to scotland, then shipped to italy). Why did I buy it? Well, for one, I figured that even if I didn't desparately need it, if nothing else, it was never going to get any cheaper. More fool me! By that time, I was already reading the horror stories, so I just didn't install it. I have no immediate use for it and doubt if my 800Mhz crapheap could handle it. So, I figured I'd wait it out for a few SRs and see what happens. And what's happening? It seems that a lot of people are uninstalling p5 and writing it off as a bad deal. I'm sure many others don't have problems, but I have no desire to wreck my computer trying to find out which group I'll be in. Sure, I can't make a judgment, since I didn't even install it, but to be honest, it looks to me like as Las Vegas gamble, and that's not my idea of how software should work. I know I'll never get my money back, and frankly, I don't give a hoot. My mistake, I pay. Not that I'm rolling in money, but adding stressing out over it to the financial loss is not my idea of fun. One of these years, I'll get a new computer, CL will be up to SR 20-something, and I'll brave it out. Until then, I try not to think about it. mac