'many of the peeps complaining bout P5 are trying to run it on a PC that's not powerful enough' That's a valid point, DD, and it's one of the reasons I don't want to install. I'd only be asking for trouble, I reckon. At the time I bought P5, I was planning on upgrading puter with some expected cash. Well, the cash fell through, so I'm sorta stuck now... oh well... mac