Waldo wags his weener wildly. Wasn't too long ago that Curious Lags was playing 'footsie' with Caligari, and saying what a great "strategic partnership" THAT was gonna be. Poser & TrueSpace bundle offer, etc.. At this point, CL might be better off cutting a deal with other software companies to GIVE AWAY "Pisser 5" bundled in with their software, and getting a cut of that other companies extra sales. Is anyone really willing to risk buying the P5 turd, as it sits the way it is right now?