Yes... I've come accross these bad lines in the obj files which ship with Poser. While experimenting with the PBooost 1.4 obj viewer, I found a whole bunch of files with these erroneous lines. I had to re-code the mesh loader to ignore these lines... by reading them as vn -1.0000 -1.0000 -1.0000. This works... the files load in, and there are no incorrect facets I can see. Looks like Poser ignores these lines... or corrects them when it reads. So I suppose the only thing to remember to do is remove the #IND bits prior to trying to manipulate the mesh in another application. H:)