H Mann's Judy ++ is a wonderful addition to the girl...as most of Harvey's stuff tends to be. What would be a seller, at least for me, is creating new cr2's for existing clothing, so that Judy and Don could wear them. I do most of my rendering in Vue, and have done the P4 file copy that lets me do the export of the P5 kids. But until Vue works out the dynamics import (drooooool), the old fashioned conforming stuff is all there is.