Wow, the French Don is pretty hunky. I'm not much on the Furries, but I like Little Dragon's lion too. Actually, I do buy all I can find that I like for Judy and Don. I won't buy eveything because it's not all to my taste, but I've bought all the real life clothes I can find. I don't want to get into the tiresome quibble about Judy's looks. I would have thought we had gotten to a point in the world where we could look at a difference as just another variation instead of labeling it "ugly." She's very good for those times when you need diversity in a graphic and get tired of chewing memory with Vicky 3's injectables (Vicky 3 is the main reason I can't take Poser 4 off my computer). She particularly benefits from careful lighting....she becomes warm in a way the plastasoid Vickys-Barbies often don't. EricofSD is obviously a master of lighting Judy and Don...makes all the difference. I think Don and Judy have gotten left behind but not necessarily because they are bad models. Oh well. I'll continue working with them as I can. If I wasn't such a failure at modeling, I'd probably give clothing for them a try but I'm putting that on my list of things not to spin my wheels on. (And yes, I am a drop out of Phil C.'s tutorial, and all the others....not everyone can be good at everything. I'm still trying to figure out just waht I'm good at, I guess.)