Has anyone seen or can anyone refer me to a site that offers facial hair props or textures for Don. The default texture for Don is too boyish for my tastes, though I think he would serve well where one wants a teenage young adult. I think I would try to use him more if I could get a more masculine look with him. I use Micheal primarily because I can make him look more masculine and less like an adolescent fashion model. I must confess that I am impressed with what people have done with Don and Judy here. I have been working mostly in P4 with PP, but if the new service release pack for P5 does it's job I may start working more with it. Even if I use P4 I still use the Firefly Engine to render my scenes.