Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: !!!Anna-Mare Goddard Responce!!!

SWAMP opened this issue on May 27, 2003 ยท 61 posts


Rio posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 8:34 PM

forgot to copy post since i took too long, timed out and lost it, now must retype from memory

screw that ill just paraphrase...;)

turn me into a 3d character, put me naked in a temple with a sword up my hiney and i wouldnt give a damn. but thats not everyone, not everyone would agree, and im not a celebrity, and apparently celebrities have more rules. I dont see how such a 3d render of my skin or body morph would do any harm to my reputation or image. i see how a photo of me doing somehting lewd and down rigth dirty would, but not a cg image for cryin out loud. but thats not everyone. AMG has the right to tell us what we can and cant do with her texture/morphs, that doesnt mean everyone will listen, your right, nor does it mean we have to agree and buy it.

The main thing i was talking about in my post that just disappeared of the face of the planet, is DAZ. Gabe is right- i dont see how this is so new and creative and special. for them to DO, yes, for us to see, no. But further more, its not a product i would buy anyway. It says human replica, digital clone, blah blah...im lookin at these promos and i see a pleather Barbie. that means NO offense to AMG, we all know the texture turnout has nothing to do with her, that was DAZ's doing. this does NOT look like a realistic human character to me, they are telling me it is, i dont see it. Nor do i see how it is a "clone" of AMG... im lookin at her photos and lookin at these promos and im sorry but i dont see the slightest resemblence. I would never in a million years recognize this as AMG. it could be anyone for all i know.

DAZ is askin if they should continue these "digital clones" in the future. If they are all gonna be of similar quality then i say no. I think DAZ has put out better character pack than this before, and i see this as a disappointment because of that. The texture doesnt seem very hi res, i made a reference to pleather, its very plasticated to me, the details seem washed out somehow in places where it needsit, or overly detailed liek the lips, i dont think thats very realistic looking. maybe the promos are just bad, i dont know. They have done better before, there are better textures here at Rosity, this "clone" looks nothing like AMG, so i fail to see why they think this is so special. i honestly believe that without the brand name there wouldnt be much to sell on this. this "clone" to me just looks like a dial morphed vicki, with what could have been a default low res vicki texture, yet i like the defult v3 texture they made a LOT better.

I would expect to be blown away by realism and resemblance, if this were to be such a "digital clone" and im not. I think they could have done a lot better. i would think that by their reputation and the respect that i have for DAZ they would have done better. i would think that with their staff and technical as well as material resources they should have done better.

so no, if this is what we are to expect as "digital clones" from DAZ, no i dont think they should do any more. and if the celebrity subject had a better idea of what the quality of a photo-realistic texture should be, or the potential at least (judging by the realistic textures we have seen around) that the celebrity would feel the same way. so i dont think its up to par. i mean if this were a TRUE digital clone of AMG, of course we'd be clamoring for it. look at the characters made by the people whove done the Final Fantasy and Anamatrix movies, THAT is 3d realism. THAT blows me away.

maybe they dont have those kind of technical resources, but we've all seen what you can do with Vicki in ther 3rd party apps... i in no way mean to sound biased or liek im pushing Gabe here, but i see how he does his stuff so i am intimately familiar with his products more than i am anyone elses (which is why im gonna use specifically him as an example), so lets take the Mil girl for example... then look at what he did with her to make Nia. I am not the only person who sees that as a superbly realistic body. That wasnt done using body scanners or any sort of hi-tech equipment. I see other promos by people here whove also used 3rd party apps to make amazingly realistic bodies, and they dont have that type of equipment either. So if all you guys can make such realism with our normal every day 3D apps, i would certainly expect more from DAZ.

Vicki, ok i can see where shed have to be a generalization of the average female model to appease the general population and base use. but i think all that should be put aside if you are making a clone of someone.. it should be the relative height, weight, body style of the subject, and i dont see this clone as lookin anythign liek AMG's body, judging by her own photos. it still looks like vicki to me. i dunno, i would assume a body scan of her would produce something more realistic, and if not, then it could be tweaked, just as you all do with vicki in your 3rd party apps, which takes nothing away from vicki's functionality, just a loss in versatility as she wouldnt fit vicki's clothes right?if they are goin for realism who cares if she can fit vickis clothes. im sure someone will make AMG clothes to fit ;) but hey maybe thats why this body looks more like Vicki than it does AMG. which gives us a false clone, that defies the purpose of being a clone. lol ;) if i was a clone, i certainly wouldnt fit vicki's clothes now would i? so poo thats not realism to me.

so much for paraphrasing ;) sorry!!! ;)

anyway you get my drift and ive bored you enough..lets see about this new EULA...