yeah but if its supposed to be a clone, we shouldnt HAVE to spin dials to make it look like her. And by plastic Barbie i was refering to the AMG texture, not V3, we all know we can make V3 look anyway we want, that was the purpose of making her. look at the diff in the 2 pics you posted. one looks more like skin, one looks more like shiny plastic. they BOTH still look like Vicki to me. and of course they are different, i would never think DAZ would be so silly as to put out the same thing twice. and again is till say the default Vicki text is better, comparing your 2 images the default tex has more detail it seems to me, the only major diff in res or detail being the lips of the AMG tex which had a lot more detail and thus are the best part of the AMG tex imo, the only thing the default tex lacked. Both look like very similar textures, yet from 2 diff people. thats not implying the same material was used for both, if it was the same artist(s) making the AMG tex as the default tex then i wouldnt see any reason why there wouldnt be similarities, style is a factor of course. Just like you can see any tex here and generally automatically know which artist made it just by looking at it. My whole point being, theres nothing that stounds out to me to say that this AMG tex is so special. Its not very realistic, ive said it looks plasticated, it lack a lot of detail, no very hi-res, ESP when you compare it to their previous textures as you have. Im complainig about the product description DAZ gave this product. i dont think it lives up to it. it looks nothing like AMG, airbrushed photos or not, that wont change the shape of her face and features, if its gonna be called a clone i would think the morphs would out weigh the impt of the texture. Even tho any avid poser user knows you can drastically change a look of a charcter morph by changing the texture,even still ANYONE can see the fact that in those two pics you posted the AMG character STILL looks a lot more like Vicki. i still see no resemblence. i still see nothing that makes this package any more special than any other ive seen, other than having AMG's name on it. DAZ has done better textures, so have some of you here at Rosity. With access to a super model for reference and the resoureces DAZ has, I would think this product would have come out a lot better, a lot sharper, a lot more detailed, a lot more realistic, and look a lot more like her as it says its supposed to.