"Do you two actually sit at the same keyboard to type, and sort of shove it back and forth between eachother?" no, rio sits across the room from me on her own comp - much like you and russel, no doubt... although she and i try to spend our time more contructively, rather than spending it hatching defamatory rumors and plots to gain access to restricted forums or steal confidential renderosity member databases when fired from the site. until now i have not personally insulted you, mehndi, yet you come in here and in 3-4 posts have spewed forth at least a dozen condescending, snide little personal insults at me and rio, under the guise of a post preaching that we are the ones arguing heatedly... until you decided to 'grace' this thread with your self-proclaimed omniscient presence, this discussion was quite civil and constructive. why dont you go back to your little pissing-ground of a forum and spew your insults there instead, like you usually do.