'the images on Anna's site seem to be air-brushed. Especially the Playboy covers' And that surprises you? On average, it takes 2 weeks to shoot the playboy centerfold pic. They do innumerable tests before they decide who it will be, then they do several shoots, pick one nice shot and RESHOOT it.... then the computers boys start retouching.... And if you want a reason for all this hullaballoo over a cover, playboy has the highest advertising page rate in the US. That's BIG bucks. I know. I worked several times for playboy when I was an assistant photographer (and they're incredibly nice people). 'If I cannot use a bought product for doing my art and selling it using poser, I might as well just through out the computer and go back to oil painting' Yeah, but if you tried to promote a product using an oil painting of AMG, you would still likely be a target for a court case. One thing people in this forum don't seem to comprehend is that they don't have any more rights than the rest of the world. You pay $15 for a CD. That doesn't give you the right to sample the music and put out a disc of your own. So, if you pay $40 for a clone, should you have the right to modify it and make it sell your own product? I doubt it. We''re all so used to 'anonymous' creatures like posette, vicki, et al, and using them for anything under the sun, so maybe it comes as a shock to some of us to find that you can't do the same when you're dealing with a clone of someone who actually exists. Anyway, I'm all for open discussion and disagreement. It's healthy, and usually leads to enlightenment. And I do admire people for fighting for their rights to the bitter end. I just think that in this case, a human being's rights are slightly more important than poser art. mac