Corel had visions with their old boss. Yet is only leaded by a group of numbercrunchers. They have no real vision for Painter, no real vision for Draw, no real vision for Ventura, no real vision for Wordperfect. No real vision for anything. That is their problem actually. If there is no wonder around, I think they will fade away in 2, maybe 3 years. That is my option and the problem with it for me, I'm sure I'm right with it. Thomas