Susan, I'll check the image for sure during my daily stroll into the galleries... but I want to use your consideration about rendertimes to repeat here my strange finding and see if someone is experiencing the same thing. I continue to get strange results in rendertimes. To put it shortly, the times are pretty much the same if I use normal AA or Premium at 36rpp (sometimes even 64 get the same render time). That's __ I think __ because the last AA pass in Normal is a real bugger. I usually thank the Brycegod for the always unexpected gift, but I'm really puzzled by this... Sorry for the off-thread steer... S.