i did a couple but i haven't really got into it (i can do more though) as they have to be more simple than a conforming one.....the problem is if you create say a dress with a lot of folds in it then you use it dynamically the folds will drop out, now i think its possible that you could set something up in poser 5 so it would create that effect, fix a few vertices so they can't move and the rest has to fold over them might work but it'd be complex i think...also stuff with buttons is tricky, again it can be done but you'd have to set up constraints on every button, buckle, belt and on top of that every vertice must be welded...reading that it sounds like i'm on a downer on the cloth room but i don't mean to be most other cloth software has the same problems, and P5 cloth room is still a lot better than a lot of the high end stuff.....Steve