Cool...more discussion on this one. Would hope others would pop in with their opinions. I really like that first one and after seeing Alpha's attempt and thinking about what I said, thought I'd try and see what I could do. I tried, but for some reason, this shot is tougher than I thought it would be to get the right amount of cleanup without stepping over that line or not going far enough (again, all in my humble little opinion). Also, not seeing her in real life my color correction is probably off. But it sure was fun playing with it (I realized recently that even beyond my own photo needs, I really love messing with photos in Photoshop). The problem I have with some of the cleanup software is that they don't distinguish well between noise, grain, etc. and natural/relavent image details. Outside of glamour photography, completely smooth skin tends to freak me out. :) -=>Donald