Me thinks thou doth protest too much Marque... You don't owe me excuses and I don't care to read any more of them. Unfortunately way back when I first posted in this thread I checked the email me when someone replies in case the original poster needed some questions answered. As long as you persist in whining about my posting information that I thought you were might not be aware of (those models being copyrighted) and information that you might even find helpful (the additional information about Simply3D3), I'll get prompted to come back here.