heh thanks moe but trust me i do. im not quit understanding the concept of the silverware thing. not only that make it proportioned in size is a bugger. i am sure my package wont be done by the time you come back but if it is then least i can just give the silverware out for free to customers or something. i still have the built-in microwave to make and a few tweaking of the other items oh and lets not forget my most hated part...textures...ugh! but thank you so much moe your tutorial well help me greatly better understand how i am to go about making this three week long pain in my tail spoon.