Well, I'm thinking the same thing! Get it and download it, methinks. Probably can't save much more over the $139 download price. I may just go ahead and do that. It looks to be a little easier way to create clothing from a particular character, because you can create a character from selected groups (polygon). An example shows making a face mask (for a party) from the selected head group(s). Assuming I am correct, then I can create shoes, socks, pants, whatever, maybe a little easier by doing this process in Pro Pak, then taking the exported character into another 3D application for texture mapping or whatever. I also thought I read somewhere that MAT and possibly BUM files are created more easily with Pro Pak, but could not find any references in the user guide pdf. Oh well, can't have everything I guess! Still worth it for the additional Setup Room, and making clothing. Thanks for your responses. Norm