Sometimes I start a fractal with an idea, they're the worst coz I don't have the skill to know what will do what so its a lot of trial, error and time. Other times I just work with a 'lets see what happens attitude'. I get bored easily doing the same type of images and just recently came to an abrupt halt from using the same ucl's. I guess I'm more non traditional in regards to spirals and mandy's, I'll try most any formula and rarely use the same one more than a couple of times. I love Apophysis flames and the imported pic fractals and I like messing around with post porcessing.