I've had pretty good luck with Bryce and Bryce only in my scenes...really the only outside work I do is make a terrain map for my walls, but texturing, modeling, placement, etc. are all done in Bryce. I take pride in being able to do everything in Bryce with as little or no postwork as possible to learn further areas of Bryce plus that way I know in the long run if/when I need a good effect and Photoshop or something makes it easier, I'll certainly do that. MD