thank you all for the help and advice. i have tried all but the using ground planes technique, but that is the next thing i will try. one thing i am running into, is when i make the walls and then rotate to the desired angle they seem to skew when i try to scale them to either a bigger size or a smaller. can anyone tell me how to prevent that from happening? i have attaced a pic of what i have done so far, for your critique. mind you it is fairly simple. as always your input is greatly appreciated. eb