This has been quite a night! I was able to burn them to a cd on the laptop, took it to my main computer and there they were!! I figured I was home free......but no.....the zip files when copied to the hard drive were empty!! I tried one of the smaller ones on a floppy....same thing!!! By now I'm thinking the computer has a serious problem. Then I recalled that this had happened once before and Stuffit had to be used to open them and not the Windows Expander Wizard. Well......it worked :) I can only assume they were packed by Stuffit as normally a zip file will open just fine with Windows Expander. By god I better make something with these things, that's all I can say! :) I'm not sure why they didn't download on this computer peejay. I don't use a download manager (have DSL on this one). I would sure like to find out though! I must say that I had forgotten how much of a drag it is waiting for a 56k modem to download! :) I wouldn't worry about it.....I'm probably the only person here that will have the problem! :)