Good people?! Where? Where?! Don't frighten MadRed like that. I think (hope) those who have 'officially' left Renderosity will drop back from time to time. Computers and art are two things you shouldn't get mad about, at least not mad enough to go and pout in the corner. Get pissed, need a break; fine, we all do. Now get over it and get back online. (Meant in the nicest possible way.) (thoroughly) MadRed