Rork - I agree ... compared to the Ilford Delta 3200, the Kodak T-Max P3200 was crap. The grain was horrendous and ability to resolve was pathetic when compared to Ilford. Of course, there may be some situations where the TMax 3200 shines, but I haven't found it. I'm kind of ticked off. They stopped selling the ID 3200 in the 3 packs here. Used to get 3 rolls for $9 -=>Donald