Just wanted to comment, even though this doesn't matter anymore. But REALLY nothing from either RD or INF got transferred over to Carrara, a great majority of the program is rewrites, like the physics for example, completely rewritten. The interface itself looks nothing like either program. Carrara is its own program. I pray for bevel in CS3, among other things. Eovia does very well to listen to its users, so I wouldn't be surprised if not all, at least some of the tools/features you want are in the next release. Brian