Allerleirauh, thanks for the leads but I have not found thier (or your) work in the gallery... if anyone has URLs please tell. PolarTech, Carter was a really good lead, I had thought he only did gieger stuff but he has some really great painterly illustration work based on Poser at his site. Theresa, any chance you could show us your work. Email me? momodot@hotbot.com? Thanks.