jstro- I must admit, it does help restore a bit of the enthusiasm and get me thinking that maybe getting some pieces published is a possibility. Let me also publicly thank you for the feedback on my submission for the earlier version of this contest. Though you may have noticed I never actually got a revised version of "Symmetry" completed and posted (I know, I know, procrastination will kill you...), I really did appreciate the thoughtful feedback. It helped pull me in to this forum. Since the new filter on the server at work has blocked Renderosity, I may not be checking in quite as often. But I'm still around! Send me an email y'all if I'm missing some of the good stuff! Joe