Aye, It's great that Eric Wenger is doing this, even though I am as anti-fruit-based-computing as they come. There's a big difference between toys and tools. Those screenshots are pretty good, but alas, there was nothing there that couldn't be done in Bryce 5, on a Mac or a PC! But, as a political statement, it's a good move! I appreciate the hard work he did back in the day, but still... Those landscapes pale in comparison to what Mojoworld produces. I mean, it's really not even a comparison. Sorry Eric, maybe Doc Mojo would hire you on to make Mojoworld work better on the Mac or something? I don't even use Mojoworld, not yet (too busy modeling), so I have no vested interest in promoting it. I am merely judging these different apps based on the images that I've seen, and I've seen a LOT of CGI landscape work. Also, the technology behind Mojoworld is much more promising, it has the brightest future of all the landscape-making apps... Imagine Morrowind with the Mojoworld engine incorporated... What is reality, anyway?!?!? (grins)