Ok I think we have gone as far as we can with this discussion :) Anthony, it is clear that your intentions were good. I must also thank you for removing the Renderosity images from your site when members asked you to! Hopefully you can see after reading this thread how important it is to first ask an artist before posting their works. Lets just chaulk this up to a learning experience and call it a day :) Thanks to everyone for posting their thoughtful and constructive comments. ladynimue Poser Moderator