I've found that I can make better skins half the time than the nodes can do... which means that raytracing and dynamics (hair and cloth) are the only REAL reasons for me to use the Firefly... PLUS I've run into some other interesting things with Poser5's new render machine. Anyone else experiencing black lines through flat square objects or bloating of other props??? Check this out - A sword prop I've been using for months in P4 now renders with the ricasso (leather wrapped handgrip above the blade) bloated out like a balloon... It renders fine in the P4 render... Sorry the swords are going through the victim, so it gets an adult content warning... but regardless I'd love to know if this is me, or everyone. I run a 1.4 ghz processor with a gig+ of RAM, P5 with the SR-3, so I'm totally up to date...