There's a tutorial somewhere on making shadows with postwork using a background picture, but d'oh I forgot where I put it... :( I't deals with making a render without the background then intergrating the two in postwork. Maybe somone else knows the tut I'm talking about and is kind enough to post it. If you have a Platinum membership at DAZ though, I can sugest looking into getting the Cyclorama, it works wonders on scenes like this. ;) Cheers, Axe.