CL says that they are working on a P5 "Pro Pack" that will include updates to their plugins for 3DSMax, LightWave, and Cinema. For stills or boned Poser characters, check out Greenbriar Studios for a not-so-free set of plugins soon to be available for Cinema 4D (already available for LightWave 3D). :Little Rant in CL minor: It's taking CL an inordinate amount of time to make these updates for Poser 5. I know that they released the product prematurely and spent oodles of time making it stable and killing bugs/oddities, but since then, I've learned Cinema4D 7.3 and 8.1 as well as LightWave 3D 7.5. I've started learning Maya PLE and am getting read to demo 3DSMax 5. Already building my first full, realistic human characters in LightWave. At this rate, Poser is going to become a moot point. BYS