Cresent, The hair frizz issue? The only thing that comes close to something like that for me is when a strand is coliding with a body part after styling. If you calculate, that hair will vibrate and get all frizy and be locked in place while the others (which were not coliding at calculation) rest and flow just fine.(based on setting) I have goten some very nice results although I have not extensively testing this feature. I have had poser crash on me while looking for object or texture files but I blame myself/the self extracting .exe for not correctly installing it to the right path. Do people often make calls to textures that are somehow nested on another drive 5 folder down in a dump directory then delete/rename/move it later only to forget to change the path in the poser file and hit ctrl-r? b r e a t h - Well I'm not waiting for p5 to fix that bug. And I'm certainly not holding poser responsible for crashing out. Though a less finiky program wouldn't have batted an eye to it. Now I do get pretty pissy when I get the white screen. Anyone ever get the white screen? Or how about the header for the document tools not being near the tools anymore. Or the changes in textures not showing (although properly applied and renderable) until you leave said object then reclick it...? Thats just annoying. Sure sometimes the cancel button freezes or my window wont update but I deal with it. For 200bucks, I bite the bullet (a small one at that) and take what poser can give me. Which in my opinion, was and still is more than my moneys worth. And with this new 3dsplugin, I'm golden baby, GOLDEN! I really wish there was a list of bugs we could work from. I mean, if some of us can get all fired up about this, could we not direct our energy toward gathering information and compiling a bug list from !users... ? We could spend our time and brainpower working through them one by one here instead. dreaming I'm just one of those s**t or get off the toilet kinda guys.