Mmmm, interesting. Still nothing that proves they're unrelated although I now suspect that they're not. I like the Sanskrit 'grantha'; the river I live and work by is called the Cam, but locally it's called the Granta :-) Thanks for that dialyn. I'll see if I can find a Sanskrit scholar - must be one around here somewhere. Menawhile, always glad to hear more. Have a good weekend all :-)