Give it up, it's not worth the headache (or the flammage :) accept that if it works, it works, and if it doesn't it isn't likely to in the near future either. Personally I think it may have been recompiled, but I doubt P5 was re-written, unless they re-typed the source from hard copy :) But it's a moot point for me, P5 still isn't half the app that P4 is, and while I'm willing to admit "it may be me" I've been using a computer for 20+ years, I'm a sysadmin by profession, and geek by right of passage :) I spend almost every waking hour in-front of one keyboard or another, and my PC, while no longer cutting edge, far exceeds the stated spec in every regard. Had I not pre-ordered it, (a first for software) I'd have uninstalled it long ago, (and depending how much bigger my P4 runtime gets I may yet... :) But I digress, "move along, move along, nothing to see here..." :) later jb