Zhann got it perfect. that is change, new logo (which though I didn't vote for it I do like it), and comprimise. I still say let us keep the choices. It is harder to code, it takes more time, but it keeps the hits coming and that is what the merchants need to pay for thier advertising money. Tuttle, every eye sees things differently. Yeah some mase sites show light backgrounds. But let me ask, the artist that are making a living at this (Bryce, Photography, Maya, Poser, etc.) and that you like their work, not their sites their work, what do they have? Most of mine have dark backgrounds. Why? Because it keeps the focus on the images and artwork. Mostly I say keep choices, then all visitors can be happy. Magick Michael www.zhounder.com