Oh, and it just ain't nice to bitch about freestuff. Studio Maya is a long-time contributor to the Poser community and a very well-respected one, so anything derogatory that you say about them is gonna get you some flack. Truly I have never had a problem with their things, nor do I know any of my Mac friends who have either. If you use Mac Converter for every PC archive that you download, you should generally be alright. Laurie