Sounds great Loggie! I'd be interested in the Z-Brush stuff too. I've been considering Z-Brush as a companion to Wings, Wings isn't good with high density meshes, at least on my computer :o) I figured they'd make a good team, I'm still trying to get a decent download of the Z-Brush demo though :o) Are you still using Wings and Messiah? Haven't seen you around the Wings forums for a while. Cheers - Baz