Wait? People who actually like P5 and say it on the board are now considered trolls? Well paint me green and whip out the torches and acid, because Poser 5 works fine for me. Okay, I'll admit it does have the occasional lockup, but usually that's because I did something stupid, like setting a parameter dial to zero when it should be higher. For the most part, I enjoy it, I find it stable, and it renders hair, cloth, stills, and .avi's nicely. And to the naysayers who don't believe I actually can use Poser 5 since I have no pictures in my gallery, I keep my gallery on Renderotica, not Renderosity.