I installed the patch. Downloaded and installed the patch for the real movie plug in that the patch disabled. lol. I downloaded and imported the volumetric presets. Nice BTW. MYSTIC_FM..... Did you try this address for a feedback form for Corel? http://venus.corel.com/nasapps/FeedBack/index.html Good luck. They seemed to have a few contact options. Now whether it will merit using is another question. Yep, Hawkfyr, doesn't make sense.