Oh!. . . suddenly realizing why her application of props takes as long as it does. Before you pose-- what a concept! But I'd miss all those times when ytransfer does what xtransfers supposed to do and z does nothing at all. Well, I wouldnt' miss them that much. And, I too would like an end to those-- hey, it's just a quick render . . . . two hours later, libraries still sticking out, objects still loading, desperately pressing the ctrl-S. You ain't alone. Emily