I had a couple of requests for the info I sent to Mechanismo, so I will put it here for your convenience. Firstly, you should get the recent update to Apophysis. Here is something I wrote some time ago, and most of it still applies: Here is how to get an Apop flame from Apop to UF3. Before you do anything in Apophysis, open it and choose Options on the Tool Menu, then choose the Flame UPR tab and change the right column "File:" to enr.ucl. Generate the flame and edit it until you are happy with it. On the main window for Apophysis, you will see on the 3rd line icons for a variety of things. The first is an open folder, the second a floppy disk ( open file, save file) and so on. The third item is 2 sheets of paper, one on top of the other (copy) To pick up the file you just created, simply click on that button. Open UF3. You should have a fractal window open. (usually this will be the default fractal, but any one will be fine.) Right click in the fractal window and choose paste from the popup menu. Thats all...your flame will appear! It may take a moment or two, (or way longer, lol) so be patient. Have fun, try to eat and sleep occasionally! :)

Fractals will always amaze me!