Saw this thread and had some serious flash backs to one of my favorite movies 'The First Wives Club' In which the character played by Goldie Hawn was trying to get a part in a new movie and women have 3 roles.... Babe, Lawyer and Driving Miss Daisy..... and she ends up going to a funeral with her lips somewhat more than normal and the statements made by Bette Middler are classic. "What happened, Get attacked by a pool vac?" "Are they wax?" Delivered in typical Middler Style. The fact is they're in vogue, just like in the time of the corsets being in vogue the ideal shape was to have a waist that a man could put his hands around and the fingers touch on either side. Or try this beauty tip from Marie Antoinette whose breast size was considered perfect and was the size of a champaigne glass.... anything more than that was deformed..... or the era of the Elizabethan garments when the perfect shape was as flat as you could get it down the chest with huge amounts of clevage to top it off. Or Japan, where huge eyebrows were painted or the eyebrows were completely removed and teeth were blacked out, all for beauty. Or in China where women's feet were so tightly wrapped that they could no longer physically walk their bones were so crushed together, but they were beautiful. And don't even get me started on African tribal ideals of beauty. And we think someone who got attacked by a pool vac is strange, and that people who find attractive as odd? As weirdnesses vogue fashions go, it's not all that bad. Fashion really isn't about making sense.... explain to me those boys wearing pants so oversized that the crotch drags the ground and they live in serious danger of tripping over their own feet, yet they all but live on skateboards. Or people with so many holes in their head that they look like they've lost a fight with a porcupine and are in constant danger of knocking out their own front teeth with their tongue accessories. Shrugs Beauty or attraction really can't be explained or quantified only enjoyed, endured or quietly laughed at ;)