well that is true never had a problem with other DAZ items but i don't get the cannot find .obj message and i only deleted the stuff i wouldn't use like prop types such as the ball hat sideburns ect ect or the basic Poser 4hi and lo figures and all the animal figures with corresponding poses, textures, ect. i took all the new freestuff d/l's and purchased files and placed them in a seperate folder(not within Poser 4 itself) then basically gutted the useless stuff then replaced all the new files back into the directories they would be found in normally... so i guess it beats the snot out of me. : ) thanks for the reply Brian