I've been happily using Poser 5 since my pre-order arrived, and (once they fixed that left forearm bug) my only problem is having to fire up the !@#$%&! PC instead of using my Mac. So I'm getting the Mac version as soon as it's available, and will be glad to post how it compares with PCP5 and MacP4ProPack for me - Elisa/gryffnn