"What a dreadful mess you've made of the site, and what a terrible shame that is. I logged on this morning and thought, "There's no way I can stand looking at this for long." So I won't. I'll probably check back in a couple of months to see whether Hideosity is any easier on the eye. Or maybe not. You know how easy it is to get out of the habit with web sites." Cam - you summed it up exactly! I wonder what the 1700-odd "surfers" (by the onpage counter) think of the changes. Too bad all 1700 don't post to this Forum! Renderosity please come home...