agree completely, maclean :)) well, I'm female and yes... I find erotic visual stimulation highly arousing. I think perhaps, I never was socialised to find it unnatural. g I understand what Queri is talking about though... sometimes an erotic or pornographic picture seems 'objectified'. I like characterisation, a story going on, movement and feeling in the people portrayed. But the objectification is not offensive to me, just doesn't do it for me like a picture with strong characterisation telling a story. But this can happen just as easily in Poser as it can in a photograph, though. one of my favourite erotic photographers is Roy Stuart. He uses amateur models and tells a story in his photographs. I find his work hot hot hot. :))) and yeah... not much stomach for violence in an erotic context, with the exception of when there's strong characterisation and a solid story going on... I got nothing against murder mysteries etc.